EPISODE OVERVIEW:

Ever wonder why that diet worked for your friend but not for you? Join Betty for a real talk with Dr. Angela Tran, a double board-certified physician specializing in internal and obesity medicine. They’re cutting through the noise around weight loss, metabolism, and those GLP-1 medications everyone’s talking about. Dr. Tran breaks down the myths keeping us spinning our wheels and reveals why managing weight isn’t just about willpower—it’s way more complicated. Whether you’re curious about medication options or tired of conflicting advice, this conversation will help you make health decisions that actually feel right for you.

TIME STAMPS:

[3:23] Challenges in Weight Lost

• Stigma of weight loss
• Frustrations with medical advice

[23:19] Working with Clients

• The intake process
• Intrinsic motivation

[45:12] GLP-1 Use

• Judgement of its use
• Celebrity use of GLP-1

[48:56] Finding Qualified Doctors

• Red flags for weight loss 
• Importance of board certification

[57:16] Insurance for Medication

• Expanding access to GLP-1
• Insurance coverage

KEY TAKEAWAYS: 

• Misconceptions and myths of weight loss – Understand the treatments that actually work and how to shift your mindset 
• The emotional toll of weight loss – Listen to the various aspects of weight loss and how protect your perception of yourself
• Your blood tells a story – Learn the importance of getting your blood tested to understand your metabolism
• Weight loss has phases – Discover how to tailor a plan for you
• Small shifts – Big impact – Hear about how to create changes in your diet to achieve weight loss goals

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TRANSCRIPTION: 

Betty Wang 00:00:01 Welcome to our first episode of 2026. Today we’re going to talk about something that’s been popping up in discussions with friends everywhere and making headlines. GLP one medications. If you’ve been wondering whether or, as a friend likes to call it, vitamin O, wiggly or other GLP one treatments are right for you. Today’s episode is going to give you the real story from a medical expert who’s been in the trenches with thousands of women just like us. I’m Betty Wang, host of Betty Smart Friends. I’m a certified financial planner who helps women be more empowered and feel less alone in their financial lives. I’m so thrilled to introduce Doctor Angela Tran, and trust me, this woman gets it. She’s double board certified in internal medicine and obesity medicine. And here’s what makes her perfect for our audience. She’s transformed over 5000 patients at her med fit medical weight loss clinic in Denver. She’s in her 40s and faced her own metabolism challenges after gaining £40 during her pregnancy. She’s successfully reached her ideal weight using her own proven methods known as America’s Transformational Weight Loss Doctor.

Betty Wang 00:01:15 She takes a comprehensive, medically supervised approach. But what I love most about Doctor Tran is that she practices what she preaches. She’s a busy, professional mom who models healthy living for her patients because she believes in leading by example. So settle in because we’re about to get expert insights. You need to know to make informed decisions about your health journey. So thank you. Thank you, Doctor Tran for for joining us today.

Angela Tran 00:01:44 I am so excited to be here. Thank you so much. Let’s get right to it.

Betty Wang 00:01:49 Well, could you share with the audience a little bit about, you know, you’ve shared before with me offline that you were in internal medicine before. What? What led you to specialize in weight loss?

Angela Tran 00:02:03 You know what? Let’s let’s just get right to it. You know, I, I feel very fortunate. I’m one of the odds of the housewives of Mozambique. That’s really.

Multiple Speakers 00:02:11 What I tell.

Angela Tran 00:02:13 You. Fast forward to 2025. Hey. Guess what? Weight loss clinics, med spas, online clinics.

Angela Tran 00:02:20 Popping left and right. Brand new. One of the few I started back in 2012. And I tell people I lived and helped women and men lose weight without GOP ones for years. And so now look how dangerous I am, you know. And really, the topic here, especially for your listeners, is this, like, you know, we’re not here to, you know, pop up and quote research studies and all those are important. Let’s talk about the real stuff. And I’m going to kick off this this sort of recording. It says that addressing this success story that I have, you know, of a patient who’s lost over £50 in less than six months. That’s my average. And she confessed. Look, Doctor Tran, it took me probably four months to call you. Yeah. You know, my coworker nudged me, and she was a success story, and I knew that it, you know, worked for her. But she said something very important that I want the listeners to lean in on.

Angela Tran 00:03:23 She said, Doctor Tran, how do you tell another successful woman that you’re failing in your weight? That was it. You know we are. Be it all, do it all. You know. And how do you admit to even yourself that you know you’re successful in everything else, but makes you want to cry? That why can’t I get it together? And so this is really a real talk about having courage. No, you’re not broken. You’re talking to someone who’s living it. Not only teaching it. And let’s really get to the root problem. And guess what? It has nothing to do with food and exercise. It is the weight that you carry emotionally. And. But the cool part about it is this I can use the medical mechanics and take advantage of my Guardian years of medical training to fast forward to the life that you really deserve to be living, but you just have not been able to get there yet. And after this episode, I want you there.

Betty Wang 00:04:31 Well, yeah, I think that’s a great place to start because it is.

Betty Wang 00:04:35 We feel like we’ve tried everything. We’ve done everything that we were told to do. We know that hormones affect us. we exercise, but nothing seems to work. And you’re right, you know, talking about some sort of magic pill sounds too good to be true. And it also sounds dangerous, right? We don’t know. And that’s why I think you’re so unique in that you have this medical background that you can speak to it, and you also have the lived experience, right?

Multiple Speakers 00:05:05 Yeah.

Angela Tran 00:05:06 And, you know, we’ve been trained by what we just know, right? Is, you know, guess what? In our 20s, we decided to just eat less. And it actually worked. You know, and then fast forward into your 30s where all of the, quote, fun fad diets came in, you know, intermittent fasting, keto, Whole30. I love the cabbage soup diet. You know, we’ve all done it.

Multiple Speakers 00:05:26 Yeah.

Angela Tran 00:05:28 It actually worked too, because internet, your neighbor, your girlfriend said it worked and we did it.

Angela Tran 00:05:33 And you know. And now congratulations. Now you’re 40 and you can’t get out of bed. You’re still cutting calories doing cleanses. But here’s the problem. Then you go to your doctor and the doctor says, why don’t you try harder?

Betty Wang 00:05:50 Yeah, it’s just about eating Yes.

Multiple Speakers 00:05:52 Right. Yes. And then you’re scratching your head.

Angela Tran 00:05:55 I could not eat any less. And I’m literally killing myself at the gym. And so now, fast forward to this decade. We are getting sort of dismissed. or telling or. Sounds like what is wrong with me? Yeah, maybe the doctor is right. Maybe I should be working harder. And everybody knows that we could not work any harder because we’re women.

Multiple Speakers 00:06:22 Okay. Yeah.

Angela Tran 00:06:23 But again, through my own personal journey of, like, the original question, why did you get into this? And I’m like, well, I was probably going to die if I didn’t. And what I mean by that is I was so burnt out by being a doctor, chasing the next prescription, answering phone calls, emails, literally going home, only to know that I had to chart for a couple hours before I go to bed.

Angela Tran 00:06:48 And that was it. I, you know, literally could not live any longer. And I hope this resonates with a lot of women out there, because we spend our entire lives getting to this career that looks like, oh my gosh, she has it all. Only to find out this was exactly the opposite that I signed up for. But the cool part about it is, is that I, you know, one thing led to another and and I am just a more meaningful doctor today.

Betty Wang 00:07:20 Was there one thing that was assigned to you or that changed like that? Because I think sometimes, you know, as women we’re like, okay, we’ll just tough it out a little bit longer. Or if we could just get to this milestone, then we’ll decide. But that just keeps pushing it out. I feel like sometimes when there’s major change, unfortunately something’s happened.

Multiple Speakers 00:07:41 Yes. Funny that you say that. So if you live.

Angela Tran 00:07:44 In Colorado, it’s I-25.

Multiple Speakers 00:07:47 I wish it It was.

Betty Wang 00:07:50 Who knew?

Multiple Speakers 00:07:50 Highways 25.

Angela Tran 00:07:53 8:30 p.m.. Driving home from work. And thinking to myself. Stuck in bumper to bumper traffic. If I had a child waiting for me at home. And I just started crying at the steering wheel. And you know, I didn’t have children. And I wasn’t married at the time. But, you know, I had a boyfriend who is now my husband and I, we, we we were taking those steps, you know, and, I just realized that I’m not a doctor. I want to be a mom. I and I want to be somebody, but I didn’t know what that meant. And but driving home at 830 at night, I was like, what kind of mom am I? Like, I wasn’t even having a child, but I already sort of almost punished myself for it. that honestly, was sort of the trigger. I had multiple headaches. I couldn’t sleep, couldn’t get up. Didn’t matter whether I had a light schedule or a heavy schedule, I remember hugging. You know, my my boyfriend now, my husband is just like, I can’t I can’t do this.

Angela Tran 00:09:03 And, you know, it would just hold me close and just, you know, you know, put your head to work like everybody else. And, you know, we’ll get through this. But there was really no out at the time until I realized I am the out. And what does that mean? And I didn’t know until I let sort of the universe say, you know, you don’t belong on this parcel, you know, let go, surrender, and then I’ll show you what’s next.

Betty Wang 00:09:31 Yeah. It’s really brave and scary to do that. Yeah. And then what led you to the weight loss piece of it.

Multiple Speakers 00:09:38 Yes.

Betty Wang 00:09:38 So or did you stop practicing medicine.

Multiple Speakers 00:09:40 No no no I I actually randomly.

Angela Tran 00:09:43 Ran into a doctor who actually helps burnt out doctors.

Multiple Speakers 00:09:47 That was really sort of.

Angela Tran 00:09:48 Kind of like the. Oh, okay. Cool.

Multiple Speakers 00:09:50 Great.

Betty Wang 00:09:51 Well, that’s that’s sort of that there’s somebody that this is their job.

Multiple Speakers 00:09:55 Yeah.

Betty Wang 00:09:56 That’s it must be a known issue.

Multiple Speakers 00:09:58 Yeah.

Multiple Speakers 00:09:58 And the reality was it was sort of like.

Angela Tran 00:10:00 Okay, well here are other means to make money and income, which is your space. You know, we all want to get multiple streams of income. We don’t want to be dependent on one paycheck. Right. And so, so I went to his workshop, but believe it or not, I was like, I don’t know how to invest. I have no clue about stocks. I don’t even know the first thing about running a business. It was of the very doctor science. I’m going to throw in the Asian kid in me, you know, to just do the straight path. And so after the workshop, he literally just pulled me aside and say, you know, you know, you remind me of one of my friends. I’m gonna connect you with her. She does weight loss, you know, I don’t know, just just call her, you know, connect. And sure enough, we got on the phone. She said, Angela, I actually love what I do.

Angela Tran 00:10:52 And I said, really?

Multiple Speakers 00:10:55 Who does that? Yeah.

Angela Tran 00:10:57 Who actually loves their job? And I just leaned in and she said, legit, this is what’s happening. We’re helping people lose weight. We’re getting them off their medications. They’re super happy. but as a doctor, we get to step it up. We’re not, like the personal trainer or nutritionist, like, eat, right? Exercise. No, we got science and medicine and really addressing the root. And I kid you not, I. Something lit me up to the point where like, okay, I took the whole year while I still had my day job and started learning how to start a business by myself. And fast forward to 2012, which is a pivotal year. That was when I left my job, started a business, and got married All in all, within months of each other, I don’t recall.

Betty Wang 00:11:46 Why not?

Angela Tran 00:11:47 Yeah.

Betty Wang 00:11:49 Why not? Can you tell us a little bit about how that experience. It’s I mean, and share a little bit about your process for clients.

Betty Wang 00:11:58 I mean, because as you said, when you first started, there was, I would assume, no GLP ones for people to use. So, you know, I I’d love to hear the evolution or if you could share with our listeners what your original process for for clients were and then kind of how it’s changed over the years.

Angela Tran 00:12:18 Yeah. Well, the cool part about it is ignorance is bliss. I was so ignorant I didn’t even know. And I and I tell people because, you know, we, we, we tend to get into our heads and say, oh, you can’t do this and can’t do that. I was the exact opposite. I’m completely clueless. Let’s figure this out. That really was sort of the fuel. here in Denver, there is a great program called the Denver Small Business Development Center, and they provide mentorship for people like me. And I’m like, cool. You know, sign me up. So, so I got to be matched with a counselor. She legit looked at me and I’m like, why are you here? Honestly? And we’re actually great friends today because we literally just, like, I don’t even know why you’re here and you’re not going to make it kind of.

Betty Wang 00:13:09 You know, talk because you’re nice.

Multiple Speakers 00:13:11 Yeah. So she set up a LLC.

Angela Tran 00:13:13 You know, help me figure that out. You know, just the logistics. And then, it’s so funny. I was seeing patient a patient back to back run to my corner office. You know, set up my next call with her and go downtown. And what do we need to do next in terms of, like, marketing and sales? And we sort of got and got the foundations and then, the famous words from Tony Robinson, you know, you got to be Tony Robbins. You gotta, be resourceful. So, so I just started to kind of, like, look at different companies and what are they doing? And I matched with, at the time, this company that offers a medical meal replacements, which is a nice alternative to surgery. but it was more of, like, a turnkey solution, you know? So. So I got, matched with a business representative. We’re still great friends today.

Angela Tran 00:14:07 And, again, the basics and then open doors, you know, in September 2012. And I was just super happy to just finally jump into something. I’ll be honest with you, it was reckless and clueless and. But I’m just like this giddy, I feel free. But, but then I figured it along the way. And then finally I got smart by hiring actual business coaches. That was really then what really led me into, you know, what I’m doing today?

Betty Wang 00:14:39 And what about the programs? The weight loss programs that you were creating. Like, how did that start? What did that look like and how did that change over the years?

Angela Tran 00:14:50 Yeah. You know, the framework is honestly still the traditional what I use today. Number one, blood work do not pass go and click $200 until you guys get blood work. If you take anything away from this episode, that is it right now.

Betty Wang 00:15:03 Well, we I mean, I’ve heard and I’m sure women everywhere have heard such different, viewpoints on that.

Betty Wang 00:15:12 Right? We’ve we’ve had doctors say that that’s kind of a waste of money. It’s great to do. It’s more information, but sometimes it doesn’t really tell you much. What are the labs if you don’t if you’re able to share that that are important and why? It’s kind of like the why. Because I mean, for those of us who aren’t medically inclined, we hear these words and it sounds like Charlie Brown’s teacher. You know.

Multiple Speakers 00:15:37 Her

Betty Wang 00:15:39 What are the important labs to get?

Angela Tran 00:15:41 Yes, you are correct. It is a waste of money to spend thousands of dollars on 50 pages. Okay, so guess what? The bloodwork that you get is the blood work that every single doctor that checks once a year.

Betty Wang 00:15:53 Oh, okay.

Multiple Speakers 00:15:54 That’s really.

Angela Tran 00:15:55 It. So it actually can be free through your insurance or, you know, cash pay offices where they have lower pricing. Okay. But if you’re spending thousands of dollars, absolutely. It’s a waste. Okay. Here is really the core. And obviously I do comprehensive labs.

Angela Tran 00:16:12 And honestly it is not that much more, deviation from a primary care doctor. But if you were to check anything, your thyroid, which is a TSH level that stands for thyroid stimulating hormone. Again, routine panel. Okay. Number two, your fasting cholesterol. We really need to know that. Okay. And believe it or not, it actually needs to be in the metabolic Category. And then finally number three. Hemoglobin A1. See? People might be familiar with the, you know, traditional medication or, lab work that just measures an average of your blood sugars over a span of three months. Now given. Yes, I do a little bit more than that. But if you just literally walk into your doctor’s office, done. And if your doctor doesn’t order that, then get another doctor. Okay, but here’s the cool part about it. It’s not just the numbers that you get. Believe it or not, hemoglobin A1, see, your thyroid and your cholesterol are all part of the endocrine system.

Angela Tran 00:17:12 And I always say if one ducks out of the roll the other one is two. They are all actually interrelated and they’re not separate. Now I do have a lot of women who ask, well, Doctor Tran, what about hormone panels? You know, for females? I do have the opportunity to check that. That’s actually an individualized case. I’m not going to necessarily order hormones just in every female, because guess what? The real hormone that is the problem is insulin and not your estrogen kind of thing. So, I, I just treat my patients like girlfriends. Look, you don’t need any of that stuff, but you also need to know an interpreter who can actually give you explanation, not just whether it is normal or not. So that’s my spiel on labs.

Betty Wang 00:17:59 What are you looking for? So, I mean, I have more experience with insulin and A1 just I have a type one diabetic, so. Oh, these these words are normal to me, but I can’t imagine. And I have a thyroid condition myself.

Betty Wang 00:18:13 So, so these labs are normal, but I don’t know that they’re normal for other people. Can you explain, maybe what the thyroid does and how insulin works and why it’s important and kind of what you’re looking for when you’re looking at the lab? Sorry. That’s a lot of questions.

Multiple Speakers 00:18:34 Yeah. You know, you’re fortunate.

Angela Tran 00:18:36 You’re fortunate that that’s actually a normal language in your household. I tell people, gosh, I feel those who don’t have anybody medical in their family. Good luck to you. Health care stinks. You know, I was fortunate that we grew up in a medical family, so it was just normal. so let’s just break it down. So, you know the thyroid, I call it the Wizard of Oz. It just controls everything. Congratulations. If it’s on, it’s on. If it’s off, it is way off. We don’t even know what the Wizard of Oz looks like. You know, it’s just a gland that sits in your neck. But believe it or not, number one, it does have a primary handle on your metabolism.

Angela Tran 00:19:16 So that’s really important for you to know of all the things. If you’ve just got one piece, that’s it. Okay. Whether you have the gas pedal on or the brake system. Okay. And so it dictates your metabolism. It also can contribute to even the simplicity of digestion. If your thyroid is slow, hey, guess what? You’re going to be a little bit more on the constipation side. Or if it’s opposite, you might have other digestive issues. It controls your mood. This is really.

Multiple Speakers 00:19:44 What I love.

Angela Tran 00:19:45 Because I have women who say, gosh, Doctor Tran, I’m just so moody and and, you know, I feel like I’m having a hot flash. Am I going to perimenopause? And I’m like, wait, it might not actually be estrogen and it might be your thyroid. I have a lot of women and it’s like, gosh, like, why am I in a mood? Why do I just feel sad? But I don’t even have a reason for it. And I said, oh, don’t don’t blame it on your stress just yet.

Angela Tran 00:20:12 We got to look at the mechanics. So and then thyroid can even affect your sleep, you know, your energy level. I my goodness that the simplicity of just looking at that can be life changing. Okay. the second thing you ask is like, okay, hemoglobin A1, C and its relationship to insulin. This is what fast forward to GOP ones. This is why GOP ones exist. Okay, so when we call out a hormone, this is the one to blame. So insulin is supposed to be, yes, regulating your blood sugar and turning it back to energy. But it starts to get lazy, especially as we get older. You know, we’re stressed out. We don’t sleep well, we don’t eat right, we don’t exercise. You know, we have family members who have diabetes. You know, our family gene line is just messed up. Okay. And so the insulin starts to store everything. And I have lots of females who say, Doctor Tran, you know, I’m not even hungry in the morning.

Angela Tran 00:21:13 In fact, I ate like probably 800 calories a day. Why did I gain £3? And that is an insulin problem, believe it or not. So it’s all chemistry. And then again, cholesterol is just all related to that you know, are you storing more cholesterol. So to answer your other question, it’s not so much the number itself. I like to look at trends. So here here’s a good example of the typical female who goes to the doctor’s office and says, you know, hey, doc, I don’t feel well. You know, my hair is thinning. I’m moody all the time. I’m tired, I can’t sleep, I’m gaining weight. What gives? The doctor says, oh, don’t worry, Betty, your labs are normal, right?

Betty Wang 00:22:00 It’s within range, right?

Angela Tran 00:22:03 And you’re just like. You just want to die when you get home. Okay? Trends. I have had patients not only bring me lab work, but their previous historical lab work. So guess what? Hey, you’re normal, but you’re about to be abnormal.

Angela Tran 00:22:21 We have to address that. And the problem is, is that. Hey, guess what? If it’s abnormal, it might actually be too late and doctors don’t recognize the trends. And that’s where I come in. It’s like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, good news. You don’t have diabetes, but you almost have it. What happened? What happened two years ago? You know, like. Well, I didn’t go to the doctor because I didn’t feel comfortable. And they told me it was normal and blah, blah, blah, and, you know, just time flies by. Right. But the cool part about it is, is that there’s.

Multiple Speakers 00:22:53 So much.

Angela Tran 00:22:53 Just you just need someone to have a little bit more of a microscope. And just because it’s normal or abnormal and no, you want to know the story. And that’s really sort of what I want to teach my patients. And literally you don’t have to go to a fancy medical practice. You can go to your primary care doctor and get these things.

Angela Tran 00:23:12 You just have to go to me to help you interpret it, that’s all.

Betty Wang 00:23:16 You’re the translator.

Multiple Speakers 00:23:17 Yes, yes.

Betty Wang 00:23:19 So somebody comes to your office, they bring you their labs. how do you decide whether to work with them or not? What does that look like from that experience? And let’s say their thyroid is okay, but you’re seeing trends in there. I mean, what are you looking for before you decide to say I think you need GLP ones. And what does that process look like?

Multiple Speakers 00:23:45 Yeah.

Angela Tran 00:23:45 Very good. We take one step back and I say, are you even in it to win it? Why do you even want to lose weight? So my radar does go up. It’s like, well, I just want to, you know, feel better. And, you know, I’ve got a wedding to go to and my family reunion, you know, and these are all very good reasons, don’t get me wrong. But I really love to work with women and like I, I’m done.

Angela Tran 00:24:08 And I want to be healthy. I can’t live like this anymore. And there’s just like this intrinsic feeling that they’re ready to change from a deeper level than just surface. So because that, as you guys know, top ones are only a piece of the puzzle. If you do not fix all the other factors, not just diet and exercise mindset behavior. Yes, you are going to have a problem getting off. If you don’t know the right habits, things like that. So so so number one, we really need to just kind of say what is your motivators? Honestly, I do because I’ve been doing this for years. I do typically attract naturally women in my age group, so 40s and 50s, I get some young ones also, and I’ll take them on. But I love, love, love my 40s and 50s is because we’re a tribe in itself. Yeah, so we get it. So the typical full time married kids can’t eat, can’t keep our head straight, can’t sleep. Rinse and repeat.

Angela Tran 00:25:16 But then we start to take to the next steps metabolically. Okay. Yeah. We’re 40. Guess what? Things go awry. You know, again, I gained £40 with my pregnancy. I was considered an older mom. All of you guys know that you get an elderly mom ICD ten diagnosis. Congratulations.

Betty Wang 00:25:35 You’re 30.

Angela Tran 00:25:36 Yeah. You get to actually not only see your OB, but you also have to see a specialist frequently because you have time for that and you’re considered high risk. I had to say so. Diabetes. Loved it. SAT in my doctor’s office for a half a day drinking junky stuff every hour for three hours. It was awful.

Betty Wang 00:25:54 Orange drink.

Angela Tran 00:25:55 Right? Yes. And I can’t even. I can’t even, like, drink that fast. But I didn’t even realize that that was the trick. You have to drink it fast. I was like, drinking slow, but I was nauseated 24 over seven through my first trimester. You girls know who you are. I would call my mom and I say, I’m out of Wheat Thins.

Angela Tran 00:26:13 Can you stop by the grocery store? I’m going to die. I’m not going to make it to my next patient. If I. Wheaton’s was like, my savior, I don’t know what it was.

Betty Wang 00:26:23 Mine was record that drops. Okay. I don’t know. I don’t know why. No idea why.

Angela Tran 00:26:30 Yeah. And so. And then, And then, of course, I’m small, so. breastfeeding did not help me lose weight after. technically, I was still working. I didn’t have much of a maternity leave, which didn’t help. And so? So I did the traditional way, you know, believe it or not, for all of us know, I say this all the time. I prescribe DLP ones every single day. I would have taken a GOP one if it existed when I needed the most, but faster today. The cool part is I will never take a GOP one because I don’t need it. Because I. I’m here to also like prove to you, you know, with or without it’s possible, but we just gotta fix some things, you know.

Betty Wang 00:27:15 So well, I guess. I mean, you’re a good example of the story, right? Because it sounds like you went on them and now you’re no longer on them and you’re maintaining your weight loss. Is that.

Multiple Speakers 00:27:25 no. DLP.

Angela Tran 00:27:26 Ones didn’t exist ten years ago. Okay. And I would have at a moment’s notice. You know, God got on it because it’s exactly what I needed metabolically. But I did it, you know, the traditional way. Congratulations. Now you get to cut calories and exercise. Oh, by the way, we’re actually going to tear your ACL while you’re trying to exercise, taking care of your daughter. And then I had six months of weekly physical therapy in ten months to finally walk again. So I’ve been through the trenches, but again, I’m just here. the cool part about it is, is that, you know, probably over the last 2 to 3 years is really where I bumped up my game. And what I mean by that is I just felt like I owe it to my, particularly my female patients.

Angela Tran 00:28:13 I want to be congruent with what I teach. So sure, before I was healthy, but I wasn’t like, super, you know, healthier. I was borderline skinny fat. I’ll admit that. You know, where I was just like, eating, but it wasn’t hardcore or anything like that. But I think I recognized once I hit, you know, 45, we’re not messing around. 46 wasn’t too bad. 47 who are you? You know, kind of thing. But it just motivated me, like, okay, I’m really going to show what’s possible. And honestly, that really is my joy. And that’s probably why I continue my healthy habits, because I actually feel congruent with what I’m teaching now.

Betty Wang 00:28:55 So tell us a little about what what are the lessons that you’re teaching? you know, they’ve come to you, the labs c tell you a story and they need they need a reset, right? Not even just for their weight, but emotionally. what does that look like when working with you? And I know it’s going to be different for everyone.

Betty Wang 00:29:18 But I guess, generally speaking, what do you commonly see?

Angela Tran 00:29:23 Yeah, yeah. Well then let’s just sort of talk about like a typical session with me. So, you know, it’s the traditional, you know, doctor train. I have been getting into my protein. I’m exercising 3 to 4 times a week, you know, I’m kind of hungry, but, you know, figuring out, you know, I do have my stressors or whatnot, but, I’m so frustrated right now. What’s wrong with me kind of scenario. And so we take one step back and say, you know what? There’s nothing wrong with you, but where are you judging yourself? And I’ll just take a long pause. It can be a long pause. And then it hits. Hits the patient right from the start. Wow. So then they get into like, well, I just I feel like I’m failing at a mom. You know, I totally forgot to, you know, pick her up the other day, and she was so mad at me, or I didn’t get to the grocery store in time.

Angela Tran 00:30:28 So now I have to order out for everybody. Or my boss, you know, who already puts a lot on my plate. Put another thing on my plate. But I still feel inadequate. You know, these are the stories that we really take a deep dive on. the reality is, is, again, we’re we’re addressing the weight of what you’re really carrying first. The medical stuff is easy. I do that boom, boom, boom, kick off call, look at your labs, fix that. But the real work begins is, okay, let’s identify where you’re judging yourself.

Betty Wang 00:31:06 So is there therapy that’s also in or do you recommend that to your clients usually, or how does that. Because it sounds like you’re kind of I mean, you’re doing. You’re addressing the physically and the emotional. And I think most people aren’t accustomed to a doctor doing that.

Angela Tran 00:31:27 You are right. This is truly based on experience. You’re definitely not going to go make your annual routine and talk with, you know, most of the doctors about the topics that we talk about.

Angela Tran 00:31:39 Majority of the females that I work with already have therapists, psychologists, psychiatrists. I’m not in that realm. I’m here to present as a what if, for a lack of a better phrase, a mirror. I’m here to present awareness. And again, this is again not taught in medical school and not even taught in training. This is literally you are tapping into the over ten years of working with women with similar patterns over and over, and I got to one day I was like, oh my goodness, you know. I started to see patterns and similarities and I just it’s really hard to explain. And you’re you’re right. When people look at my website, it’s like just a traditional doctor who’s going to prescribe medications. But no, I’m going to dissect your brain and get into your mind like nobody else ever has. But that’s the real work. And people really almost sort of pleasantly surprised once we get into it. but I’m just here to bring awareness and consciousness. That’s kind of this new movement that we’re seeing.

Angela Tran 00:32:51 is consciousness. What are you aware of? Again, the example of the judgment. And, I’m just really good at helping people come to the solution. I am not the solution creator. I am the facilitator. And I think that’s just part of the magic of what I do in the six six success stories that I’ve had with patients that, have lost a lot of weight. again, it’s not the pure simplicity of the diet and exercise. There are a whole new person by the time they’re done with me.

Betty Wang 00:33:25 And how many sessions do you do? Because imagine one hour. That’s okay. One hour session is not going to, You can’t. Or maybe you can. Maybe you’re back. Maybe you’re that good that.

Multiple Speakers 00:33:40 it’s very dependent. You know, everybody has different life paths and.

Angela Tran 00:33:44 Stories and things like that. So, I have been.

Multiple Speakers 00:33:50 experienced.

Angela Tran 00:33:51 That I can connect with people quite quickly. It’s almost borderline tarot card reading. Not going to lie. I can read you like a book.

Angela Tran 00:34:04 just because I’ve just been doing it for so long, and I’m. I’m proud of that. but again, depending on sort of the situation, life stage and things like that. Then we rework it, but the awareness comes quickly. Honestly. And, call it if you will. I’m still trying to, you know, figure out, okay, how do I name this? Because it’s difficult, you know, but it truly is a talent. I’m just like that kid who just, was able to connect with all different walks of life. And it’s just it’s quite astonishing that I can get along with people who are quite, very different. and it might be just partly my mom. My mom is typically the mom that can make a best friend on an airplane. So she.

Betty Wang 00:34:48 Probably. Yes, we all have folks like that.

Angela Tran 00:34:51 Yeah, yeah. But the funny thing is, she’s an extrovert, and I think people are surprised that I’m actually more of an introvert kind of person. But I love the one on one because it truly is this sort of this energetic connection.

Angela Tran 00:35:04 And then all of a sudden I almost sort of kind of like, I see it. And then I’m just here to sort of, again, translate more than just blood work. because I have a message and I can just help people scoot, scoot along much faster to where they want to be.

Betty Wang 00:35:21 So what’s after that step, right? if they or is that you’re you’re not only mirroring them, you’re diagnosing them, and then you’re also making recommendations. You know, what are sort of tried and true recommendations, that you have found working. I mean, obviously we’ve heard intermittent fasting, don’t eat for breakfast. And now we’re hearing you should definitely eat for breakfast or like, eat a lot. Eat 30g of protein. Eat creatine. And so it’s very confusing if there’s, if there’s a right way or is that very is that based off our blood type? You know, we don’t I don’t know for sure.

Angela Tran 00:36:08 Yeah, yeah. No big picture. Okay. I actually have a program. It’s called the Four Phases.

Angela Tran 00:36:12 Not everybody has to sign up for all four phases, but just sort of break it up. Okay, so phase one is simplicity of weight loss phase. You are right. We are literally only focusing on the one on one what to eat, what to exercise, what is insulin. What is protein? What does all of this mean to your body? And you start to kind of get going on your weight loss. The very foundational basics okay. Phase two is maintenance. Okay. Congratulations. You are like losing weight. You’re you’re maybe ten, £15 away of your goal. Now it’s just practice. Okay. What did I do to get here and what do I need to practice to get here. And then then the third phase is the shift phase. Okay. This is the fun part. Now that you’ve understood your exercise, your diet, you know, the traditional things. You know the shift phase is like, okay, let’s really address what is the problem that has nothing to do with diet and exercise.

Angela Tran 00:37:08 So again, you know, your job challenges, you know, family responsibilities. Are you taking care of aging parents or children who require more care because they have medical concerns? kids in college, all of these things that, believe it or not, really like to kind of disrupt you. And that’s really where we really slow down, because I think that’s probably one of the lengthiest phases. And then just to let you know, the last phase is the most important phase of all, is the habit phase. Okay. And when I say the habit phase is like, how do we get you to the point where you don’t even have to think about it anymore? Where you are actually being that person where like, oh, you know, today is Thursday. Of course I exercise that just it’s just natural, like, you know, brushing my teeth, you know, kind of thing. And we always go to the restaurant and I always order this because that’s just the naturalness and so, so big pictures is an evolution, you know for sure.

Angela Tran 00:38:10 And it is complex. Don’t get me wrong. but a lot of people are still always stuck in, you know, phase one until they meet me. But, and some people do it in a certain time frame. Some people will take years. But again, it really is just a self evolution. And I’m just here for the ride. but it’s just really cool to see that we actually do leap people into the next phase. And you can feel it, because that is where the true transformation lies.

Betty Wang 00:38:39 And where does the GLP one kind of fit into those four different phases?

Angela Tran 00:38:45 Yeah, yeah. So usually right from the very beginning, I always tell patients, look, dope ones are an option. Always. You’re absolutely perfectly capable of losing weight without it in a different way. But we talk about obviously review lab work, you know, again, your age, your genetics, the medications, all the chemistry. Okay. And so I facilitate GOP ones again. We’ll control your appetite. Number one, which is really one of the biggest reliefs.

Angela Tran 00:39:19 honestly people really almost upfront realize, wow, it takes away what we call the food noise out. You know who you are. You ate lunch and you’re like, why am I hungry? I ate 30 minutes ago. You know.

Betty Wang 00:39:33 I think about what I’m what I’m going to eat next. I’m like, okay, what’s for dinner?

Angela Tran 00:39:38 No. And then I, I cannot not eat before bed. I just, you know, those kind of feelings and the magical ness of the GOP wants it doesn’t just, you know, work in your gut to help you lose weight. It actually has, you know, effect on your brain receptors to help what we call sort of take away the obsession or the thinking about food. That’s the freedom that people, I think don’t realize. They just think, oh, I’m just going to eat less because it helps me control my appetite. It actually helps you stay in control of food, which is the cool part. So. And then it because it works on insulin for those who actually crave sweets.

Angela Tran 00:40:19 You know, more commonly I have I have a classic patient who literally could not break her habit of eating something sweet before bedtime. She just thought, that’s just my my lack of willpower or weakness. I just never got into it. And I tell you, within a week she’s like, I don’t even know who I am anymore. Like, it literally could be National Donut Day, and I couldn’t even I couldn’t even, like, try to have a bite if I wanted to. It’s this is the magic of the chemistry that it does. Now, obviously step two, it increases your metabolism again. 40s. Hello. Like I always tell my female patients, look, you’re trying to boil water when your stove won’t turn on. Yeah, okay. Everybody feels like. Like everybody raise your hand right now. You are trying to boil water when your soul won’t turn on. Okay, so GOP ones chemically in the right way will help you increase your metabolism because as we know, as females, again, maybe we just don’t exercise as much.

Angela Tran 00:41:18 You know, we’re losing muscle again. We’re dealing with perimenopause, menopause, a lot of things that are affecting our metabolism. Right. And so we’re we’re practically swimming upstream at this point. But GOP ones really kind of put that back in order. Okay. And then, last but not least, I always just say like, okay. And please know that GOP ones are not the sole answer. They’re just training wheels. Okay? So you got to still ride the bike, aka you still need to figure out the diet and exercise. But here’s the cool part I really want to share, a session that I had with a patient yesterday, that she said the GOP ones, just helped me just look at myself in the mirror differently. And she just said, I just. I just can’t even explain it to you. It’s like I, I’ve never been okay. Looking in the mirror until now. And I was like, wow. Something about that, you know. And then again, that’s where the faces come in.

Angela Tran 00:42:24 So again, we’re not just, you know, fixing, you know, the food and exercise. You know, we’re fixing the self-perception. So, so you guys really need to understand that GLP ones are life changing. Yes, it has side effects. Yes. It’s an advanced medication. And yes, it’s expensive. It stinks. Insurance doesn’t cover it, but there are means to get access to it in affordable ways. But the number one important thing about GOP wants you just need someone who has experience to help you navigate from A to Z. That’s really the point about these GOP ones.

Betty Wang 00:42:59 Yeah. I mean, I think that’s what’s when we have friends or, you know, we all take myself for example. Right. I’m almost 50. I work out 5 or 6 days a week. I understand sugars. A1 sees blood sugars and how they affect the body. I eat fairly clean. and, you know, it’s like what you said. The weight just keeps going on and on. Am I obese? No.

Betty Wang 00:43:29 Does that should I consider GLP one? You know, I think there’s a lot of people in that for people who who definitely, you know, type two diabetic or borderline where this could really change their life and make them healthier. you know, I think folks who are in my bucket where it’s like, are we just being vain? Right. and I’m not saying that that’s a bad thing, right? I definitely know where I feel better. Right. When your clothes feel better. And I’m also short. So these £15 really make a huge difference. I have done, you know, everything that they’ve said the creatine, the weighted vest, the weightlifting, the hot girl walks. You know, it’s it’s it is kind of. Wins at time. Right. Yeah. And is it okay? And you know what? Will I ever be able to go off of them? Right? Yes. Yes. Are these risks worth I mean, looking better, which I think you does translate into feeling better.

Betty Wang 00:44:46 But again, it’s that, you know, sort of. Am I being too vain? Am I being silly? Am I going to make my health suffer in a different way while being really skinny. Am I going to have a big face? Or. Right. Or. Or. But whatever things that I’m reading about. Right. There’s all these questions that we’re not really sure what to believe or what to know.

Angela Tran 00:45:12 Yeah. And these are all valid questions that I get all the time, which is amazing. And these are the conversations that I have over consultations and things like that so that you get the full picture. So I’ve got a couple of things to say about that at the time of this recording. It’s great. Serena Williams made the news.

Betty Wang 00:45:28 Oh, I saw that today.

Multiple Speakers 00:45:29 Yeah. So she used up.

Angela Tran 00:45:31 One to lose weight. But here’s the real message that people are missing. Okay, sure. She you know, she sponsored, you know, a company that did it, and she’s losing weight and getting healthy.

Angela Tran 00:45:41 Nobody ever addressed that. The reason why she is of values. Because she’s making it feel normal and okay to use it. That was the message that people need to get away from. Serena Williams. Oh, this cool celebrity. How could she? You know, just come out and all that stuff, you know, type of thing. We just need to normalize it that it is a medical treatment legitimately to help. Number one. Okay. Number two, one of the biggest things that people, you know will say is like, well, I don’t want people to feel like I took a GOP one to cheat my way.

Betty Wang 00:46:21 Yeah, I took the easy way out.

Multiple Speakers 00:46:23 Yes, yes. Here’s my answer to that.

Angela Tran 00:46:26 Go ahead and pick up the phone and call your girlfriend who took fertility treatment to get pregnant and tell her that she cheated to become pregnant. Same scenario. These are legitimate physiological treatments to fix something that you yourself said. I’m exercising. I’m eating right. What gives? Okay.

Angela Tran 00:46:52 And the third piece. Ding ding ding. Where are you judging yourself?

Betty Wang 00:46:59 Oh, do you have. Do you have another hour? Yeah, we might have to. Yeah. Schedule something else. Yeah, I might be, What was it? Phase three for yours? Yeah. I’m not sure you have enough time. Yes, yes, but it is, right? It is. And I feel like I’m definitely not alone. Right. Or we have friends who are. All of a sudden thinner than they have been in the 15, 20 years I’ve known them. Yes, but it’s like nobody talks about it because, I mean, I know that it’s nobody’s business, but it also is very striking where you’re like, well, what if they’re sick, right? Like, And it’s. So I think women feel embarrassed.

Angela Tran 00:47:43 Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And I always say, you know, the most dangerous side effect of top ones is working with a doctor who doesn’t know what they’re doing.

Angela Tran 00:47:53 That’s it. I’m sorry.

Betty Wang 00:47:55 But how do we know if they know what they’re doing? You know. Right. I mean, obviously.

Multiple Speakers 00:48:00 Okay. So, clues.

Angela Tran 00:48:02 It’s not easy. Okay. When you go to the doctor’s office and you say you want to lose weight, they’ll say, okay, here’s a prescription red flag. Okay. second red flag. Okay. I want to lose weight. Here’s a prescription. figure out the diet and exercise piece. I’ll see you next month. Kind of thing. Here’s another red flag. Why would you even want to do those injections? You need to just figure it out and exercise, you know?

Betty Wang 00:48:40 Work hard. Yeah. We’re older.

Multiple Speakers 00:48:42 Yeah. They’ll be happy.

Betty Wang 00:48:43 Oh, yeah.

Multiple Speakers 00:48:44 Be done with it. Yeah. No. It’s true. I mean.

Betty Wang 00:48:46 I definitely heard that right where.

Multiple Speakers 00:48:48 It’s like.

Betty Wang 00:48:49 Why? I mean, you’re almost 50.

Multiple Speakers 00:48:51 What do you care?

Betty Wang 00:48:52 Yeah.

Multiple Speakers 00:48:52 Don’t give up.

Betty Wang 00:48:54 Just give up.

Multiple Speakers 00:48:56 Oh my.

Angela Tran 00:48:56 Gosh. Please don’t fire me up here. But it’s usually the females, so here are some thing. I gosh, I want to say this in a nice way. And this is not just health. If you want a result and it’s just professional or personal or or whatnot. Hang out with people who have the result. Okay. Not to discredit. I don’t believe that cardiologists have to have a heart attack to help people, but guess who. You know how powerful a cardiologist is who actually, you know, experience or heart attack kind of thing. Okay, so but we want to start thinking about just okay. Again, the congruency sort of kind of like, gosh, I just I don’t feel right if I’m not doing what I’m teaching, you know, kind of thing. So and, you know, in your money world don’t want to hang out with poor people, plain and simple. But do you know what? Guess what? We laugh because our girlfriends are complaining about, like, you know, toilet paper costs too much now.

Angela Tran 00:50:06 And now I have to, like, you know, own, you know, three apps and and watch, you know, all my favorite TV shows. Or are you talking to people who say, yeah, yeah, I’m about to invest in this. And I have a portfolio. And I hired Betty who like, legit, you know, gave me a, you know, this x percent return. Guess what? That’s who you hang out with. But you are absolutely right. It is really tough. Very, very tough. another giveaway is I want to shout out to all of my colleagues who actually have the board certification. I truly full.

Betty Wang 00:50:42 Heart. Which one are they looking at?

Multiple Speakers 00:50:43 What are we looking for?

Angela Tran 00:50:44 LBC medicine one specifically believe it or not, no endocrinologists actually don’t fall into that category because they it’s still big or overarching. But if you have someone who, full on I’ve got there, there’s there’s actually a handful of obesity medicine certified doctors here in Colorado now. So cool, you know, kind of thing.

Angela Tran 00:51:04 So that usually sort of got the stamp of approval kind of thing. And then, I’m a, you know, a freak of nature, you know, I enjoy teaching. So I am active on social media sometimes. Yeah. You’re right. You know, social media is always sort of kind of different persona or whatnot, but, you know, just follow them and just see, you know, are they educational? Do they think do you really think. And but at the end of the day, I always tell people, there’s definitely a lack of trust factor in this whole weight loss industry, 100%. The only person that you should trust is yourself. So that’s where you fine tune do your research. How do you normally make decisions? Some people pray on it. Some people just have a gut feeling. Some people will look you up under the sun and make sure you did not end up in jail back in, you know, 1980.

Multiple Speakers 00:51:54 You know they are.

Angela Tran 00:51:55 You just trust what you do to make a decision.

Angela Tran 00:51:59 But any other day you are the one that makes the result. And you just want to feel good about the person that is leading you, and that’s how you get the result. Okay, but yes, I do have sympathy for everyone out there because it is wild out there on, you know, who who to go to for sure.

Betty Wang 00:52:22 Well, I mean, I just had a meeting with a potential client this morning and I told her the same thing, right. It’s it’s listen to your spidey senses. In the end, all of us are gotten to this place because we’ve had some knocks. And it’s hard because there’s no there’s no checklist. Right? It’s it’s a lot of what is your gut say and if you’re how and listen to that right.

Multiple Speakers 00:52:51 Yeah for sure.

Betty Wang 00:52:53 What are the percentage of your clients that eventually go off GLP ones. Like once you start are you on them forever?

Angela Tran 00:53:01 Very good question. You know I have different scenarios. So I have people who like congratulations, you made it, you know, all the way to your goal weight.

Angela Tran 00:53:09 And they literally abruptly stop. And that’s actually not very harmful. But they’re like, I’m done. You know, see you later. Awesome. Okay, then I have some people who have struggled with weight. Usually they’ll say, since I was born, you know, kind of a thing. So I say, well, I can’t fix you overnight, so please know that it’s going to be drawn out. Some people are on it for several months, some people on are up for year after year kind of thing. Then I have the middle group of people who say, this is great. You know, I got to my weight, I’m exercising. It’s fall. I really have a good grasp. And then they’re off, and then it’s sort of like the baby steps. They learn to go from crawling to walking and they’re like, oops, November hits. I have the holidays, my in-laws are coming. It’s going to be nuts. You know, it’s like potluck at my office every single day.

Angela Tran 00:54:02 And so they will restart, you know, which is totally okay also. So I just really sort of like individualize again, the four phases. But weight is also very seasonal. You know, you just know that your weight fluctuates in different patterns from fall, winter, spring, summer, you know, kind of thing.

Betty Wang 00:54:25 And does that affect your, you know, are you messing with your metabolism? Is it going to mess it up forever?

Multiple Speakers 00:54:31 Okay.

Angela Tran 00:54:32 It’s again, you know, the typical is fall. Everybody’s on point. Kids are back in school. Awesome. My my structure I’ve got things going then around about the holidays. Oh my goodness, it’s getting cold. I don’t want to exercise. I want to eat a lot of soup and, you know, comfort food. So it’s a little bit tricky then congratulations. Since January. Awesome. I joined the gym on New Year’s resolution. Everybody’s just coming back on point in spring. Oh my goodness. Weather is warmer. So people are really nice and steady.

Angela Tran 00:55:00 And then summer. Yep. Forget it.

Multiple Speakers 00:55:02 My my kids all the kids are off.

Betty Wang 00:55:05 Happy hour.

Multiple Speakers 00:55:05 Okay.

Angela Tran 00:55:07 So and everybody has like they’re different you know again seasonal patterns you know within. But again that’s the sort of kind of the four faces right. It’s not not just the phases of the the weight loss journey. But again, what does life like to throw at you at certain times? But again, back to sort of the work that I do. It’s just an awareness. So you almost sort of like, well, I do know myself well that every time, you know, holidays come around. Am I crazy hungry? Asian family, you know, comes in and, you know, I have to be on alert more, you know, versus, you know, when they’re away and in other states and I’m good to go.

Multiple Speakers 00:55:44 That kind of thing.

Betty Wang 00:55:46 Is there anything else that you know we should know about or that you want to share that I haven’t asked prodded you about?

Multiple Speakers 00:55:53 Yeah.

Angela Tran 00:55:54 I think my parting words is, let’s let’s stop blaming ourselves for a problem that actually is rooted medically. And there’s a big to it. But, if I could encourage the listener, today is the day that I no longer blame myself for this problem. And I’m going to get help. And there’s hope. And it doesn’t matter if you are 27, 37, 47, 57 or even 67, just different stages of life. But I wholeheartedly believe that it’s possible and I’m living in check back with me when I turn 50. That’s all I.

Multiple Speakers 00:56:41 Have to.

Betty Wang 00:56:41 Say. Yes, I have that. That’s coming up for me. So I think things are going to fall off a cliff after that. and then I guess I didn’t touch on this because I think, you know, as you’ve mentioned, cost can be an issue. Does insurance or at your medical, at your office. Is that accept it, or do you have to be a certain BMI or how does that work? you know, obviously they’re self-pay, but I think that would be pretty scary to some people as well.

Multiple Speakers 00:57:15 Yeah, yeah.

Angela Tran 00:57:16 For the most part, historically, from just generic weight loss services and nutrition and things like that, insurances or some covered, some don’t. But it’s not it’s not great. Yeah. Okay. we definitely work with insurances when it comes to the medication piece, especially now that we have the weight loss injections. However, these injections are again quite expensive. Every day there’s always a change in the insurance decides we are no longer covering these medications, so it can be very challenging and stressful. The great news is out of pocket. Prices are starting to come down. You know, the various companies that make the weight loss injections now have savings. You know, programs, you know, for patients. So there’s a lot of affordability. We just launched a national platform. We partner with providers across. So if you live outside of Colorado, you know we still can give you, you know, access to GLP ones if you are in Colorado. Work directly with me, you know, kind of thing.

Angela Tran 00:58:20 At the end of the day, we understand finances is an issue, but at the end of the day, what is it really costing you? It’s not the the program. The injection is costing you your happiness and put a price on that.

Betty Wang 00:58:36 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that’s hard to write.

Multiple Speakers 00:58:39 Yep.

Betty Wang 00:58:40 There is no price on that.

Multiple Speakers 00:58:41 Yep. Yep.

Betty Wang 00:58:44 I have more questions, but I will leave. I think that’s a great place to sort of. And our, you know, that part of the conversation as part of the the podcast, I always have these closing questions for my guests. And, you know, that is how do you personally maintain your balance in peace? We’ve talked about you are a professional, obviously working a lot, and you have a daughter that you don’t want to be stuck on I-25 traffic.

Multiple Speakers 00:59:10 And you’re.

Betty Wang 00:59:11 Wondering how you’re going to get home to her. And what do you do for yourself? It sounds like exercise, of course.

Multiple Speakers 00:59:17 But yes, everybody’s.

Angela Tran 00:59:19 Going to laugh. I am a professional napper.

Betty Wang 00:59:24 I don’t think that’s true. I love napping. Okay.

Multiple Speakers 00:59:27 You know.

Angela Tran 00:59:27 I decided that, I live in a different time than everybody else. And what I mean by that is, like, if I’m up at 2 a.m., I’m going to get up and do stuff. You know, I don’t. And then I’m going to go back to sleep. I eat dinner at 430 because that’s when my daughter gets home from school. You know, I nap at 6:00. You know, I work out at five, but I just live on my own timeline because I don’t define anything. I, I am spiritual. A lot of, like, I think inner work and, like, gosh, I just continue to remind myself, why? Why am I even here on a bigger level? I think that’s just really important. and I have just the most amazing family, best friend support, to keep me sane when I feel like my head’s cut off kind of thing.

Angela Tran 01:00:17 So it’s not easy, but I find I find my inner drive and everybody’s definition is different. So, but I, I do have done a lot of work to just know that, I believe in a lot more higher level things that I ever had compared to when I was younger. And, and then and then you just wake up and I was like, cool. What what’s going to happen today? That feels like a gift?

Betty Wang 01:00:47 I think that’s, you know, that’s lovely. Right? That all the I talk about it in my work with retirement folks, all the studies show it’s purpose, community. And your the the bigger the greater good that really matters in having a happy, successful retirement.

Multiple Speakers 01:01:12 Yes.

Betty Wang 01:01:12 Do you have any. I mean, do you consider napping your hobby? Is that or do you have other things you’d like to do?

Angela Tran 01:01:20 I love to swim. yeah.

Multiple Speakers 01:01:22 kickboxing.

Angela Tran 01:01:23 Is my therapist for life. Something about punching.

Multiple Speakers 01:01:27 A bag will always.

Angela Tran 01:01:28 Be my joy,

Betty Wang 01:01:32 I feel like that’s the best sentence ever.

Betty Wang 01:01:35 Punching something. It will always be my joy.

Multiple Speakers 01:01:39 I love it, I love it.

Angela Tran 01:01:41 spending time with my daughter, obviously. She’s just. She looks like me. He. You know, I just, I just.

Betty Wang 01:01:48 She’s at a great age, too.

Multiple Speakers 01:01:50 Yeah.

Angela Tran 01:01:54 yeah. You just have to find your joy, you know? And you.

Multiple Speakers 01:01:56 Just.

Angela Tran 01:01:57 You know, just live on that at the end of the day. you know, again, life is beyond, you know, the 9 to 5 grind. So, we, we, we assume that we have tomorrow, and that’s the mistake. So we just start thinking about, okay, cool. You know, what am I what am I doing here day to day?

Betty Wang 01:02:17 Yeah. Yeah. What’s the best way for people to find you? Now you’re saying that it doesn’t matter if they’re in Colorado or not.

Multiple Speakers 01:02:24 So that’s also good for people.

Angela Tran 01:02:26 I like to live on Instagram. at Med Fit. Doctor Tran is my handle.

Angela Tran 01:02:33 That’s where I have fun.

Multiple Speakers 01:02:35 Yo yo, yo yo, I follow you.

Betty Wang 01:02:36 It’s fun.

Multiple Speakers 01:02:37 Yeah, I’m.

Angela Tran 01:02:39 I’m goofy. I’m a nerd. I’ll be honest with you. I try those viral things that just makes me feel like, oh, my gosh, I’m so, like, nerdy. But I’m game, you know?

Multiple Speakers 01:02:50 Yeah. It’s fun.

Angela Tran 01:02:51 I keep it real.

Multiple Speakers 01:02:53 like.

Angela Tran 01:02:54 All my conversations with my patients are like, girlfriend or girlfriend. I’m. I’m kind of like a small barking dog. I’m just going to tell you what it like it is. But I’m also going to love you unconditionally, you know? And, bark at big dogs just because of you.

Multiple Speakers 01:03:10 You know?

Angela Tran 01:03:11 So. But,

Multiple Speakers 01:03:13 But. Yeah.

Angela Tran 01:03:13 Message me. Yep.

Multiple Speakers 01:03:14 Okay.

Betty Wang 01:03:16 Thank you so much for your time. I really appreciate it.

Angela Tran 01:03:19 Yeah, absolutely. It was a joy. Hope everybody got a lot out of it because that’s just what I do, and I love it.

Betty Wang 01:03:26 Thank you.