EPISODE OVERVIEW:

With host Betty Wang, Christy shares powerful insights on harmonizing Eastern healing traditions with Western medical advances to tackle the complex physical and emotional shifts of aging – from hormone balance to emotional resilience. Whether you’re seeking natural solutions or curious about integrative healthcare, this enlightening conversation offers fresh perspectives on reclaiming your vitality.

TIME STAMPS:

[4:33] Multi-Dimensional Healing

• Exploration of healing 
• Different life stages 

[17:36] Client Needs

• Importance of integration
• How to read the body

[21:33] Self-Discovery

• Self-trust
• Personal exploration

[30:14] Western Medicine

• Healthcare collaboration
• Enhancing treatment

[47:02] Empowerment in Healing 

• Significance of hope
• Actionable steps to healing

KEY TAKEAWAYS: 

• Alternative healing methods: Discover how alternative therapies create lasting change by addressing root causes rather than just symptoms
• Addressing trauma: Unlock emotional freedom through evidence-based trauma release techniques 
• Actionable steps for clients: Master practical daily rituals and mindset shifts that put you in control of your wellbeing
• Significance of personal empowerment: True healing starts with reclaiming your power and trusting your body’s innate wisdom.
• Holistic approach to healing: Experience the synergy of treating mind, body, and spirit as interconnected parts of your health story.

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Betty Wang is an investment adviser representative of BW Financial LLC, a registered investment adviser registered in the State of Colorado. Registration does not imply a certain level of skill or training. The views and opinions expressed are as of the date of publication and are subject to change. The content is for informational or educational purposes only, and is not intended as individualized investment advice. This information should not be relied upon as the sole factor in an investment-making decision. You are encouraged to consult with a financial professional to address your specific needs and circumstances.

TRANSCRIPTION:

Betty Wang 00:00:05 Have you ever felt emotionally stuck or felt that Western medicine alone wasn’t addressing your physical issues? As women, our bodies often face new challenges as we age and emotionally. Hormone changes can make difficult times even harder. Today, we’ll discuss alternative approaches to traditional medicine that we can explore. Welcome to today’s episode of Betty’s Smart Friends. I’m Betty Wang, your host. I’m a certified financial planner and a partner to women in their financial lives. I help them feel taken care of and less alone when it comes to their money to help us today. With our discussion, we have special guest Christy Singer MSP, MMT, CNC. Christy is a highly accomplished professional with a diverse background. She helps individuals who are experiencing pain, illness, disease, These injury emotional issues and those who feel stuck in life. Each session is tailored to the individual’s needs. Combining Kristy’s extensive skillset and complementing both Eastern and Western medicine. Stay tuned as we dive into Kristy’s journey. Her unique approach to healing and how she has transformed the lives of many through her holistic practices.

Betty Wang 00:01:21 I have friends who swear by her and have gone to her personally. I felt stuck a few years ago and then again a few months ago. I can’t really explain how it works, but it does. My friends describe her as an intuitive healer and I have to say I agree. Please welcome Christy to the podcast. Hi, Christy. Thanks for being here. Hi.

Christy Sanger 00:01:41 Thanks for having me. This is so great. Well, you’re.

Betty Wang 00:01:44 Part of the inspiration for for starting this podcast, so thank you. Maybe you could start by telling us a little bit how you became an alternative therapy practitioner.

Christy Sanger 00:01:55 Yeah, I would love to talk about that. So I started practically 30 years ago on a very traditional route. I started in physical therapy school and it was great. I mean, it has such an amazing place in the world. But as I got out and started working with people, I just knew there was more to healing than just, you know, doing exercises. So I finished my first Masters and then went on to a second Masters in Orthopedic manual therapy.

Christy Sanger 00:02:21 And that again is a little bit more traditional. So what that means is I work on helping you align your spine from your neck all the way down to your tailbone. It can be your shoulders, your elbows, your wrists, anything. Whatever’s out. I can help get back in. It’s much more gentle than chiropractic. Chiropractic is a great modality, but just like anything else, it’s not for everybody. So I did that second masters in orthopedic manual therapy, and when I tell people about what I do, I always tell people that throughout my whole career, trauma has always followed me. So women with pelvic pain who had been in sort of perhaps abusive situations. Started basically just coming to me. And I had to figure out how to help them in different ways besides the traditional. From there, I started studying cranio sacral, which is your whole entire nervous system. And then I understood or started to understand how the organs also participate in pain syndromes and emotional syndromes. So when we look at such things as trauma and the resulting emotional things that can happen, our body keeps the score and there’s books written about that.

Christy Sanger 00:03:31 But what that means is that our bodies hold emotions, whether it’s the nervous system or the organs or whatever. There are things in the body that can create a feeling of being stuck, kind of like a deer in the headlights almost type situation where you know what you have to do, but you can’t really do it. You know that you have to heal. You know, you have to change your diet. You know you have to exercise, but you can’t do it. There’s something holding you back. There’s resistance. So when we work in that energy field, then I can help you release those energetic blockages that can help you move forward in life. So after years and years of studying the cranial sacral and studying the visceral, I landed into studying human design, which is basically your story according to your DNA. From there, I started studying really in-depth the energy medicine piece. And from there I started studying the multi-dimensional piece of healing. Meaning, okay, we have this lifetime. We have your lifetime from the point of conception to seven years of age.

Christy Sanger 00:04:33 And there’s many books written about how we experience our worst trauma from that point of conception to seven years of age, because our nervous system isn’t ready to process that. So we have the dimension of today. We have the dimension in utero up to seven years of age. We have past lives. So if we look at ancestral healing and we look at perhaps possibility of past lives, we have all of these energetic blockages that potentially could be stuck in our cells that we don’t even understand, like we don’t even know that they exist. So when we work in these multi-dimensional fields, we can really clear the DNA, which allows you to heal. It allows you to better understand your emotions and be able to work with them. And it also allows you to move forward in life to realize why you’re here, why you incarnate it to this planet, and what your mission is. That’s a.

Betty Wang 00:05:31 Lot. And so who what types of clients come to you? I mean, I think you have people listening to the podcast.

Betty Wang 00:05:39 There are people like me. These are things that I’ve never really explored before, but I and, you know, I have friends who are religious who have come to see you or and it’s. It seems like it’s not. You don’t have to be one or the other. You just have to be open to it. Is that fair to say? I mean, I would say even when I came to see you, I wasn’t even really open. I just figured, why not? Right. Like, other, other things weren’t working. But is that how do you explain the, like your approach to some to a lame person like someone who doesn’t know much? I mean, like I said, how I heard about you was, again, people who said I was stuck. I was in pain. My friend came to you who was in chemo, and for whatever reason, seeing you help them, there’s no real, I guess, explanation.

Christy Sanger 00:06:31 Yeah, exactly. No, I totally hear what you’re saying.

Christy Sanger 00:06:34 And, you know, it’s really hard for me to explain that many times exactly what happens in a session. So, you know, let’s start off with what you first started talking about, and you started talking about the religion piece. So for me, God is my higher power now for everybody. God is not there. Higher power. It can be the universe. It can be nature. It can be animals, you know, whatever that is. But one of the ways that what I do really works is understanding that there is something bigger than just us as these human creatures on this planet. So once you can figure that out, then it’s like, oh, okay. You know, I tell people I connect with God, God’s my higher source. I listen to what my version, the non Bible guide, the most beautiful he she coach on the planet wants us to know. And I connect with that. And then I just listen. And then I use my hands to also work with your body to, you know, just to create a conduit for what kind of information you need to know so you can take your action steps.

Christy Sanger 00:07:36 So sometimes it’s easiest for me just to give an example. So if you’re local, you come to the office and you lay on the table. And sometimes people sleep. Asleep. Sometimes people go into more of a twilight. So, Betty, if you are on the table and I said, okay, I’ll start. We’re done. You’d be like, oh, okay, I’m ready. But if I didn’t say that, you would be in a very deeply relaxed state.

Betty Wang 00:07:59 That that, I mean, that my first time that happened, I was really shocked. The Twilight thing was really, I don’t know. Weird for me. So I don’t know how to explain it, but it was exactly how you thought I was. When you started, I thought, oh my gosh, this is going to be so boring. And then the next thing I knew, or what’s going on here, like, I don’t really understand. And then the next thing I know, you said, okay, our time together is done.

Betty Wang 00:08:26 And I was waking up Twilight and I had no idea. Hi there. Thanks for listening to Betty’s Smart friends. Here’s a quick money tip that I share with clients. Automate your savings. Set up automatic transfers to your savings accounts to ensure you consistently save a portion of your income. This can help you build an emergency fund and save for future goals without having to think about it. Remember, you’re not alone. Now back to the show.

Christy Sanger 00:09:01 So a lot of that is what you learn when you study the cranial sacral work. So it’s called a still point. And that’s exactly what it does. It puts you into a very very relaxed state. So as you’re in a very relaxed state I’m going through your whole entire body. Typically I start at the feet and just as an example, oh, okay. There’s something off in the right foot and up the right leg and into the right hip. And I just kind of follow the areas of stuck energy in the body. So as I’m doing that, I’m treating you physically, but I’m also treating you energetically.

Christy Sanger 00:09:31 So I’m doing multiple things all at the same time. So as I get up through your legs and through your pelvis and we start to get into the organs and then I start asking questions. And this is all done telepathically. So as you’re in that deep twilight state, I have a protocol in my mind that I’m going through, and I’m asking questions and I’m listening to the answers that come. So to your point, when we initially started and you said that you had friends who would describe me as an intuitive healer, that is exactly what I’m doing. So I’m connecting to my higher power, which is God listening to what he she most amazing coach on the planet is telling me to do. And I’m working with you and your body, your body physically and energetically. In this day, this time, this dimension, but also asking questions about, you know, what was going on between the point of conception and seven years of age. What was going on in past lives? What was going on in life between lives? Because as we exit past lives, we travel through this life between live stage where we’re getting the information, the things that we need to learn about the life that we just left and going into our next slide.

Christy Sanger 00:10:42 We can also look at future lives. So I have teachers that say that this work actually kind of rewrites the DNA code in your body, which creates healing. So in a roundabout way, when you’re here, when you’re on the table, I’m using my hands to pick up information from you. I’m treating you physically and I’m treating you energetically. This work can also be done remotely, and sometimes it’s even more powerful when it’s done remotely, because we’re taking the physical body out of it. The other thing about the remote sessions is that we get a lovely recording, so you can use them at night for sleep. I typically every night listen to my teachers clearings that he’s done for me, and it clears me from the day’s work and, and allows me to get a really good night’s sleep so I can tell you what I do, and I can give you a good idea of what to expect. But that interim piece, the middle piece, is a little bit more challenging only because there’s so many things going on.

Christy Sanger 00:11:39 There’s the physical, there’s the energetic, you know. Then we pull out some emotions. And sometimes I’m asking, you know, what emotion is this that I’m picking up on. So there’s there’s so much to it.

Betty Wang 00:11:51 Yeah. It’s it’s it’s sort of hard for someone. You know, I’m in finance so things are very logic based. So it’s it’s kind of melding the two and being open to it. Yeah. Could you explain a little more how the how does an online session work.

Christy Sanger 00:12:10 So we do on zoom I like to be connected with you and see you. You can be in the comfort of your home wherever you want, you know, curled up in bed or on the couch or whatever. I also offer people to, if it feels weird for me to be staring at you to turn your camera off, and it’s a very linguistic session. So I’m going to be connecting to your angels, guides and teachers, and I’m going to be talking the whole time, and I’m going to be telling you exactly where I am in your body, what exactly you’re doing and what exactly I’m finding.

Christy Sanger 00:12:40 And I’m clearing. So I’ll be clearing the energy in your auric field. I’ll be clearing anything in past lives. I’ll be clearing trauma. I’ll be clearing things that are called entities and implants and seals. And sometimes I say really strange words. And even when it gets more strange as light language and its different vibrations and sounds that actually start coming out, that help to clear the negative energy, kind of like a tuning fork or a sound bath or something like that. But it’s just as I connect to the higher self and start to bring that information in, and sometimes weird words or sounds start to come out. So it’s a very linguistic process. It’s I would call it like a meditation. So if you were going to get like on an aura app and listen to a meditation or go to YouTube or something like that, it’s very similar to a deep meditation where we’re clearing all different energies.

Betty Wang 00:13:33 Can you explain the clearing piece of it or the best that you can? I mean, I can’t put into words what it means.

Christy Sanger 00:13:40 And so again, it’s really easy to explain what I’m doing, but how I do it is the hardest part to explain. So let’s just start with the auric field. So the auric field is something we all have. It’s the electromagnetic energy that our body radiates out. And I describe it as kind of like a spider web. So we have these spider webs that surround our bodies, and we have these sometimes negative energies that get stuck in there. And when that happens, then we can be in pain. We can be sick. We can be just generally stuck in life, all of those things. So what I do is I use specific words, linguistics, to be able to connect to those energies, and then calling in angels, guides and teachers. I basically say, let’s clear all these, let’s take the dark and send it send it to the light. And then I can feel in my left hand specifically because our left hand, everybody’s left hand is all about receiving, so I can feel the vibrations in my left hand when I connect to that and when the energy has gone quantum and now the energy is gone.

Christy Sanger 00:14:47 Wow.

Betty Wang 00:14:49 It sounds like a lot. Yeah, it sounds like a lot. And what types of issues do you. Do people come to you with?

Christy Sanger 00:14:57 Most people come to me with pain issues, whether it’s acute or chronic, neck, back, headache, you know, whatever. All different pain issues, more and more, just based on kind of word of mouth. I’m starting to see people who emotionally are having hard times, whether it’s stress, anxiety, again, just feeling really stuck or kind of complacent in life. People with depression, with apathy, just like they’ve lost their zest and they’ve lost their get up and go. I also see a lot of people who recently have lost loved ones and are, you know, really struggling, getting through the grief process. So the energy medicine work can help with that. You know, one of the kind of main focuses of doing these podcasts for you is, you know, women and hormonal issues, things like that. I do a lot of work with infertility, whether it’s egg harvesting or people who are going through the infertility process, IVF, making that more successful, making sure that their embryos are actually implanting and, you know, developing and becoming these sweet little babies.

Christy Sanger 00:16:05 I work a lot with women who are really having a hard time with menopause, whether it’s that perimenopause state and actually going through menopause, whether it’s like night sweats or sleep issues or just the emotional highs and lows. So the energy medicine piece can be extremely beneficial. In addition, actually, honestly, I think the visceral work specifically focusing on the liver and the adrenal glands really helps. And the pituitary gland, of course, really helps to rebalance the system in many ways. So it makes women’s journey just a little bit more palatable and faster. And then we can also look at things like nutrition along those lines. You know, are you eating too much sugar before you go to bed? Are you having too many cocktails before bed? Because all of those things affect your liver and can give you what are perceived as hormonal changes, night sweats, you know, waking up and not being able to fall asleep, anxiety, things like that. So if we can look at nutrition and really balance that out, figure out what works for you.

Christy Sanger 00:17:06 That’s going to be another way of hormonally moving you through the system so that you can be comfortable and live a great life.

Betty Wang 00:17:13 What is the process? Because, you know, when I, I didn’t know what to expect when I came to see you. And how do you determine whether to have a conversation or to read the body or to which? How do you. Can you sense it when you meet somebody, or is it part of their intake form? How does. How does that work?

Christy Sanger 00:17:36 Yeah. So I leave it up to people. I mean, sometimes people are like, hey, you know, I got your information. I want to schedule. Okay, great. Those people, you know, they just want an appointment. So beings like myself who are very energy sensitive, as you know, because this is our second time getting together. The electrical system can be challenging dealing with that. So I say call or text and then like I said, if somebody says, oh, I just want to schedule, then go ahead and schedule.

Christy Sanger 00:18:01 But some people are a little bit more cautious or want a little bit more information. At that point, I suggest let’s just get on the phone, let’s talk. Let’s see how you feel about me. Let’s see, you know, if our energies resonate, let’s see if this is what you’re really looking for. And then if we go forward, then we schedule and you see how you do. I give you action steps going forward. And they’re simple things like just things to keep the energy process going. Because with this work, the biggest difference is that it continues to work. There’s an integration phase that continues. It can be a month, it can be two months, it can be a year before people are like, okay, I’m ready to come back. So it’s very important for people to pay attention to their process and how they do versus just saying, okay, well, let’s come next week because, you know, too much of a good thing can be a bad thing. So let’s just see how you respond to this, see how your system integrates.

Christy Sanger 00:18:54 And then we can just take it there and move forward if necessary. But going back to the action steps, like I tell people, just drink a lot of water. Do deep breathing cold showers. Cold showers are super easy. Instead of standing outside the shower while it’s warming, just get in five to 10s on the back, on the front, five to 10s on the back. Journaling and journaling. Not for analysis. Like you’re not going to sit and write about all this stuff that’s coming out. What the shamans say is say, is that we write about this stuff to keep the energy moving, to keep the emotions, to keep the negative energy flowing from the body. And then we get rid of it in some way, shape or form. So like I said, the shamans say, burn it. I say don’t burn it, Colorado. Just rip it up and throw it away. The physical act of doing that is enough to create the energetic shifts that we’re looking for. And then things like, you know, just laugh, watch a funny movie, call a friend, movement, whatever feels good for you.

Christy Sanger 00:19:48 I know if you’re in pain, you’re not going to get on the treadmill, run for an hour, but go outside and walk around the block just for ten minutes. Sit in place. Lift one knee at a time. Just move your body so that the energy can continue to move. So that’s basically kind of like start to finish. So if you’re interested, get you scheduled and you either come to the office or we set up a zoom, we go through the whole process. I clear what I need to clear in the session. I let you know what I did, what potentially to expect and what you need to do going forward.

Betty Wang 00:20:20 Well, what I thought was interesting in my session, you know, you talked about past lives and you talked about, but you wouldn’t like, tell me what you saw, you know, or tell me what to do. And is there a reason why you don’t share that? Or is it. What if you saw something super terrible?

Christy Sanger 00:20:41 So everything is super positive.

Christy Sanger 00:20:43 Like this is all about love and light and clearing what needs to be cleared. And everybody’s different, you know? And I think it depends on the openness, openness of the person, honestly, based on what they’re ready to hear. So for example, you know, I can have a session where I actually do see things in past lives and maybe the client will ask me about that, or I’ll say a few things and they’ll be like, oh my gosh, yeah, this and that and the other thing. And then I know that what I tell them is not going to be traumatic, because the last thing that we need to do, especially if there’s trauma involved, is to create a situation where people are afraid. Like, I’m not here to do that. I’m here to help and to help you live your best life and take your action steps to move forward. So it totally depends on the person. It depends on kind of also how much experience you might have had with this kind of work in the past.

Christy Sanger 00:21:33 And then the other piece to it is that, you know, this is really about you. And I truly believe that all the information that all of us need is inside of ourselves. And if we just trust and we listen, it comes forward. So in different situations, I’ll tell people, let’s just see how you do. Let’s see what comes out in your journaling. Let’s, you know, let’s see what you dream about. Let’s see what pops in. And then we move forward and you can do your action steps or whatever. But it’s it’s so individual. Yeah.

Betty Wang 00:22:04 I mean, is there somebody that this wouldn’t work for me or somebody that you would say, no, this isn’t really for you? Like are there no. Are there traits of those people or is it mostly you can kind of just sense it.

Christy Sanger 00:22:18 You can sense it, you know? Those are the people who are going to more or less want to do a call and then be like, well, you know, let me think about it or whatever.

Christy Sanger 00:22:25 So and that’s totally fine, too. I mean, you know, it’s your body. So if it’s something that doesn’t resonate with you, then that’s fine. But I’ll also have situations where initially it doesn’t resonate with someone. And then all of a sudden they’re like, okay, nothing else is working. And that’s a that’s a really, really big deal. So, you know, the mind body literature that’s coming out, out now is absolutely amazing. And, you know, it’s like when nothing else works, we have to figure out another way to do it. And a lot of times it’s just calming down the nervous system and understanding that you can be in a safe place with a really calm feeling body without any sort of stimulation. Once your unconscious mind starts to grasp onto that reality. It’s like, oh, okay, I can feel different right now. And if I can feel different right now, why can’t I feel different at home or at work or in different situations? So, you know, it’s definitely a process for some people.

Christy Sanger 00:23:29 Like I said, that the new mind body information that’s coming out, if whatever we can do to break those neural connections so that your body’s no longer in fight or flight, is a big part of getting into healing situations. So you can really feel amazing.

Betty Wang 00:23:45 Can you share, I mean, without, you know, disclosing client privileged information, but can you share like a situation or a story where you helped a client get through something or what that looked like?

Christy Sanger 00:24:00 Yeah, I mean, you know, the most extreme example is I had a client in and, you know, we just did one session. I explained to this person everything that we did, everything that I found, there was a was a lot of trauma there. And literally it was about a year and this person came back and was like, you changed my whole life. And that’s like, I love that. You know, that is that is the my best case scenario. You know, I was working with a woman on Monday and she was just talking about how observant I am with different things about her physical condition.

Christy Sanger 00:24:35 You know, a lot of times I don’t ask a lot of questions during sessions, especially in repeat sessions, because I want to see if there’s patterns. You know, like I said to this woman, your feet don’t seem to be bothering you as much anymore. Is that true? And she was like, oh my gosh, you’re right. Now I can walk around the lake and my feet don’t hurt me anymore. I can walk farther. So there was that. And then there was another situation where I had noticed that she was kind of doing this weird breathing thing. And it actually is a symptom, a potential symptom of iron based anemia. So meaning that she’s low in iron and she’s had infusions for this. I was like, I noticed that you’re doing that again. So you need to get into your doctor and get your blood tested for that. And she was just like, oh my gosh, thank you so much. I’ve never noticed that before. And just conversation led to, well, I have this powder that is like organ meat or something.

Christy Sanger 00:25:27 So it was a very pure source of iron. So in addition to her contacting the doctor to get some blood work done, she was also going to restart this supplement that she had become lax in taking. So there’s that. You know, I just had a woman in who had been harvesting her eggs, and this was the third time. And she’s done. She did great. I mean, she got like 15 eggs and I think eight embryos. So it was it was amazing the output that she got. But her body was just wrecked from the hormones. And I was able to calm down and balance her adrenal glands after her, the medication and the process that she went through with that and she’s going to be implanting, I think she said a boy in January. So I’ll see her before that.

Betty Wang 00:26:11 Oh that’s great.

Christy Sanger 00:26:12 So yeah, I love seeing those mommies. So that’s that’s another thing. And, you know, it had a lot to do with her as far as clearing a lot of negative energy to get her to that point.

Christy Sanger 00:26:22 I’m really working with the pituitary gland and that function. And again, I know I explain all these things and I tell you what I do, but it’s hard. It is hard to grasp the how I do it, because a lot of times I don’t really even know exactly how I do it. All I know is I connect to a higher power, which, like I said for me, is God. And I ask and I kind of have different checklists in my mind, protocols per se that I go through. And then I can feel when the energy is cleared or when the pituitary gland is functioning better. You know, we mentioned earlier about your friend who had the bad cancer, and I see a lot of people who have cancer, and sometimes their protocols get stopped because their blood work is off. And I’ve had experiences with people who we can actually change what the blood work is saying so that they can move on with their treatments. So again, in different situations, a lot of times it just has to do with getting the liver and the pituitary gland functioning better, more optimally, so that they can tolerate the medication and process the medication better.

Christy Sanger 00:27:28 People with severe anxiety I’m starting to see a lot of that. And in a session or two with just feeling that body in that relaxed, absent fight or flight state can produce amazing results. In some cases, people work with their doctors to get off different medications. You know, so many different scenarios, people with acute back pain. That’s really fun to work with because you can have amazing results. You know, you can literally have somebody 80 to 100% pain free just in one session. Just by getting them on the table and working with the nervous system and the organs and the energy medicine piece, putting all of that stuff together, because typically there’s something in the body that’s not working. Right. So we bend forward and we move fast, and all of a sudden there’s a pain syndrome. And if we can stop that process, then, you know, it can be life changing because within hours you can feel better and be on your way and be like, okay, it’s all good.

Betty Wang 00:28:33 It’s a miracle worker.

Christy Sanger 00:28:35 It’s a miracle. It’s not me. I connect to the higher power and I’ve had great teachers, but it’s it’s really fun to watch people be able to succeed and just live the life of their dreams and move forward and change things up. How does.

Betty Wang 00:28:49 That work? If if the woman is pregnant, like, do you sense two things then and you can the journey, you can kind of connect to both or how does that.

Christy Sanger 00:28:58 Absolutely. So when I was in corporate healthcare, one of my specialties at the time was prenatal and postpartum, along with the pelvic floor, women’s health generally, that sort of thing. So I had a lot of experience with pregnant women. And yeah, when mommies are in, those babies start kicking. They love it. And then those babies typically come back as clients. So that’s really fun to be able to watch kids be able to, you know, go through the conception to the in utero process, to actually being out in the world and just seeing how amazing they are because, you know, women who are pregnant and they just treat their bodies like a shrine and they come and they do their self-care and everything.

Christy Sanger 00:29:41 These children are just lovely. They’re so calm. They’re just amazing little beings. So it’s fun to be able to be a participant in that.

Betty Wang 00:29:51 How does your what you do compliment or not compliment Western medicine? I would assume that you have you have a lot of people who are saying this all sounds like hooey. And then you have people who are 100% in and then, like me, I’m somewhere in between where, like, I don’t really understand it. I don’t, but it does help, right? Like, it’s kind of crazy.

Christy Sanger 00:30:14 Yeah. So when I look back over my career, when I first went out on my own, the name of my company was Sanger Manual Therapy Specialists. And then as I started really integrating the cranial sacral and the visceral work and the nutrition piece, then I changed my name to the Sanger Alternative Therapies in Education. And now if I were to change my name again, which I’m not going to do just because, you know, it’s just paperwork and takes time away from the real healing and studying and all that kind of stuff.

Christy Sanger 00:30:42 I would call myself saying or complementary therapies. And I tell people all the time, let’s work with your doctors, let’s work with your chiropractor, let’s work with your acupuncturist, because it’s all different. And a lot of times I’m just that one catalyst that is necessary to move people forward so that all of a sudden the chiropractic is working so much better, or the massage is working so much better. It’s just it’s a it’s a capitalistic treatment. Honestly, when we work with other health care providers and then, you know, knowledge is power. Go to your doctor, get your blood tested, go get some films done. Let’s see what’s in there. Because knowledge is power. Let’s work with what we have. And if we have that information, then we can set better and stronger intentions and, you know, get you better as soon as possible.

Betty Wang 00:31:30 What are common myths about what you do that you want to dispel? I mean, I’m sure there’s there’s a lot of them, right? Yeah.

Christy Sanger 00:31:37 You know, just I think that people just have to experience it, you know, to really understand what it is because, you know, people will constantly say, well, how can you do all that? And I don’t know, sometimes I really don’t know how I do it. I just know that I’ve had great teachers, I’ve had great information come to me. I trust in the process. And you know, it’s not for everybody. But the one thing I tell you is it can’t hurt you. Like it’s not going to be. We’re not going to do anything that’s going to hurt you. We’re going to set, you know, specific parameters as part of my protocol telepathically. What I’m saying is making sure that this process is moving forward in, in the most beneficial way for the client on the table or on the other end of the zoom call so that they get what they need without over exceeding that. Like I said earlier, you know, like too much of a good thing can be a bad thing.

Christy Sanger 00:32:30 So I’m very conservative, especially when we’re working with the emotionally energetic bodies, because when we have trauma involved, there can be things that come up. So, you know, I’ve got referrals for psychotherapists, for people that do eMDR, for psychiatrists, for other people that are outside the scope of what I do, because my goal is to help you. And if something comes up that needs to be addressed, then I’m going to help you get to the right person because, you know, we might have just created a situation where you need something above and beyond what I can do, or something more medical or whatever. I mean, medications are not taboo. Sometimes our brain chemicals and our bodies have just kind of gotten a little off track and they need some help. So, you know, as far as like really dispelling myths, it just brings me back to you just have to try it. You have to come in with a specific problem or specific area where you want to work. And then we just see where you go with it.

Christy Sanger 00:33:34 Actually, last night I got a text from a client who wants to do a human design reading for her daughter. So she’s in fourth grade. She’s struggling with some things, but her husband isn’t necessarily on board. She’s like, how do I convince him? Like, well, you might not be able to convince him. You know, people are who they are and what they think is what they think. But what I would recommend is if you know his birth time, let me do a mini reading. Let’s get on the phone and talk. And if he resonates with it, then maybe he can see the value in it and he would want to do that for his daughter. So, you know, like just like it comes down to after a session, me saying, let me know how you are in 7 to 10 days. Let me know what happened. It’s also just, you know, connecting to your higher self and deciding if this is the right path for you to take. But to your point earlier, like if nothing else is working, then because there’s no downside to it.

Christy Sanger 00:34:25 Besides more information that can be hard but doable. You can do hard things.

Betty Wang 00:34:30 What is the mini reading a mini reading?

Christy Sanger 00:34:33 Okay, so so if somebody’s interested and they just want to connect, then we schedule a call. We talked about that earlier. But human design is your story based on your DNA. And the information that I need for that is I need your birthday month and year. I need the city, state, country where you’re born and the time of your birth. And then I run that, and I just take a brief look. We could sit and talk human design for eight hours and still not be done. But what I do is I look at that and look at the biggest highlights, and then we do a call and we talk about it. And if you want to go deeper, then I do a deep dive into your chart. Takes me about two weeks to really, like, sit and analyze and go piece by piece and get you figured out and figure out the best way to deliver it to you.

Christy Sanger 00:35:17 And then we schedule our zoom to do that. But yeah, the mini readings, that’s just a human design reading.

Betty Wang 00:35:23 So is that sort of like an astrological chart or is it totally different?

Christy Sanger 00:35:27 Human design is a cake mix, so there’s a little bit of astrology in it. I don’t do astrology, but it has a different flavor. It adds a little bit more depth to the information that is presented in your chart. It is an evolved chakra system. So we have two extra chakras in a human design chart your emotion center and your Spleen center. It is also based in the Kabbalah, which is a Jewish system of energy basically running from one area to another. And then it also has to do with 64 divisions of the sky and the 64 divisions, according to human design correlates with your 64 genetic codons. So that’s why I say that when we look at your human design chart, it’s it’s your story according to your DNA. So it’s all of those things that come together to create a system where you learn about how your energy functions best.

Christy Sanger 00:36:27 And then what I do on top of that is then we can get really specific into clearing specific energies that are present in your chart. That can be also holding you back. So that’s sort of another way of addressing things.

Betty Wang 00:36:41 Wow. Okay. That’s a lot.

Christy Sanger 00:36:46 Do you know your birth time? We need to do a mini reading.

Betty Wang 00:36:49 I don’t know if I do. I think that’s really fascinating. I’ve never. Yeah. I didn’t realize that was something that you also did. And can you do like diverge from your own DNA. Like is there, is it or is it kind of set in stone or so.

Christy Sanger 00:37:07 That doesn’t really have to do with your DNA. But there’s parts of you, based on your human design chart that you can learn about that are areas where there can be a lot of conditioning, and out of conditioning comes a lot of wisdom. So, you know, when we talk about conditioning, say, especially as a child, like if our parents wanted us to be a certain way and we’re really traditional in their parenting approach, then we might think in different ways that don’t necessarily resonate exactly with who we are at our soul level.

Christy Sanger 00:37:38 So once you learn about that, and you bring that into your energy field and into your awareness, then you can work with it. And when we look at those areas, that’s unconscious information. So when we look at a human design chart we’re looking at your conscious and your unconscious information. There’s also areas in the human design chart that run 24 over seven. So that’s conscious information. That is who you are. And the more you understand that, you understand that that can’t be changed. However, years ago I had a client who her chart was basically defined centers, meaning this was energy that ran in her 24 over seven. And I said to my teacher, I brought this to my teacher. So I was like, you know, she’s so off track, but look at her chart. She should be who she is. And he’s like, yeah. She was told at a very young age over and over again that she was other. She was different is a better word than who everybody told her she was.

Christy Sanger 00:38:34 And she lived that way till, you know, 40 years old, until we looked at her chart and I was like, okay, look at this. And all of a sudden people are like, oh gosh, I knew that was just me. But everybody was telling me that it was a bad thing. And it’s not a bad thing, it’s just who I am.

Betty Wang 00:38:50 No, I mean, I think that’s really interesting.

Christy Sanger 00:38:52 It’s really interesting. Yes. I tell people all the time. It literally saved me as much as a parent, because both of my kids are an energy type called manifesting generators. And the toughest thing I think about manifesting generators is that this energy type is here to try things and potentially back out. Be like, yeah, that’s not for me, and move on to something else. And what do we do with kids? You started it. You have to finish it. Not everybody. But I mean, you know, I get it. I get that as a parent, too.

Christy Sanger 00:39:23 Well, you said you wanted to do this, and now you want to quit. Well, yeah. So what do I do? Is I coach these kids or these adults moving on, and I tell them, you know, what’s your backup plan? Who are you going to pass the baton to? Because you know that you’re going to try something. You’re going to decide perhaps that it’s not right for you. So who are you going to pass this project on to? You’re not here to necessarily start and finish something. You’re here to get something started and perhaps handed on to somebody else. And if you can figure out what your exit strategy before committing to something is, then people understand. Because, you know, honestly, people don’t like when you back out on things. So it’s really fun to be able to see those light bulbs go off and be like, oh, okay, I got it.

Betty Wang 00:40:10 Yeah, that would be really interesting to do with your children too. Yes. So many ideas.

Christy Sanger 00:40:16 I know. Isn’t this great?

Betty Wang 00:40:19 How do people know when to reach out to you? Like, how do people know that? Okay, I think I want to try something or I want to see Christie, like.

Christy Sanger 00:40:28 Well, I would say, first of all, if you have some sort of health problem that’s not getting better and you’ve tried everything, you know, let’s get a different perspective on this. Let’s, you know, So let’s figure out what the end game is. For all this testing you’ve had, all these tests and the doctors, the people, whoever, they just want to help. They’re trying to help and they’re not getting any information. So if there’s expensive tests that aren’t going to change your treatment plan, then maybe you just hold off on those for a little bit. So somebody like that would it would be good to come in and try something different. People who just feel really stuck or just can’t figure out which direction to go, like they know they need to make changes, but they just can’t figure it out.

Christy Sanger 00:41:09 That’s another way to go. So or another reason to come in. So you know, if you have any sort of pain, illness, disease, inability to heal, feeling stuck in life, emotions that aren’t being resolved completely with medication or with talk therapy or with eMDR. Sometimes it’s just like that one little light bulb that goes off that is like, oh, okay, here’s what I need to do. And it’s not a huge commitment to come see me. You know, like I said, I see you, and then we wait. And then you tell me how you are. And then we figure out if you need to come more, or if you need to see somebody else, or what you need to do going forward. And, you know, really the basis of what I do is I just want to help you live the best life, because I know it’s possible. I’ve seen miracles happen. I see people’s whole lives change with this work, and I know it can happen.

Betty Wang 00:41:59 So it sounds really amazing and rewarding.

Betty Wang 00:42:04 What’s the best way for people to contact you or reach you? Yep.

Christy Sanger 00:42:08 Call or text (303) 727-0477. It’s just easy. It’s efficient. You know, we can get you pointed in the right direction, whether it’s me or whether it’s somebody else. It’s all good. Well, that’s.

Betty Wang 00:42:21 A good question, is how do if they’re not able to get in contact with you or they want to see someone in person and they’re not in Colorado, I mean, how do they find something? I mean, you have such a unique training. I mean, you have all these different modalities. How do you find somebody? I guess not like you, but like similar something.

Christy Sanger 00:42:43 Yeah. So I have a website that I go to Blogger.com and you can find a therapist on there. So people are looking for somebody similar to what I do than I’m more than happy to go through the website. Sometimes I get really lucky, sometimes I don’t. I’ve had a couple situations recently where, you know, people have retired and moved to Arizona and South Carolina and just different areas, and I wasn’t able to find somebody through up ledger.

Christy Sanger 00:43:09 So I just kind of started googling a few things, and I found some people who do Reiki, and I found some people who look pretty qualified as far as massage and things like that. So that’s I mean, I try and I just tell people, this might be great, it might not be great, but I’m hoping that is great. And from what I’m seeing here online, it looks like something that might be worth a try.

Betty Wang 00:43:32 And with all this work that you do for other people, how do you maintain your balance and peace? And I mean, I imagine, I don’t know if everything, everybody’s trauma is like watching a train wreck over and over all day. I don’t I don’t know.

Christy Sanger 00:43:49 Yeah. So for me, it’s amazing because I watch people heal, I watch people get better, which I love. And that’s what, like, fills my soul and fills my cup and keeps me going. you know, there’s days that are hard, you know? People go through a lot of really, really hard things.

Christy Sanger 00:44:03 But I also know that all of us can do hard things and we can get through it. So knowing that at like that deep level is what really helps keep me going. The other thing too, is every night I do some sort of, whether it’s a meditation or an energy clearing or something at night, and then I do all the little protocols that I teach you guys to do, lots of water and journaling and breathing and cold showers and fun and movement. Meant I’m up running between 4 and 5 every morning. I don’t go far. I go about two miles. But you know what? I’m outside in nature. I’m breathing fresh air. I you know, I ran into three deer this morning. I’m constantly around wildlife and just knowing that there’s there’s a higher source and then prayer. I’m working on a Bible study right now and just really getting into just deep spiritual work that connects me to higher powers that not only help with my personal healing, but help me do a better job with everybody else.

Betty Wang 00:45:02 Yeah, I would imagine you have to do a lot of self-care, self preservation in this work.

Christy Sanger 00:45:08 Yeah, yeah. And then, you know, if nobody got better, then that would be really hard. But you just know when you put the hard work in and people are willing to go the extra mile, it’s it’s amazing to see. And that’s honestly what that’s my biggest thing. And then learning like, you know, when you feel like you’re stuck and then all of a sudden a new teacher pops into your energy field and you’re like, oh, it’s the piece I’ve been looking for, and that also keeps me going too. Like just finding new ways of doing things and finding new answers. And you know, even I was helping this one woman who has multiple medical problems, very odd things, put some things together. And I was like, oh, why don’t we look at this? Why don’t we look at that? And, and, you know, I was looking at the Mayo Clinic, which usually I’m not a huge fan of, but I was like, wow, this looks really interesting.

Christy Sanger 00:45:54 Maybe you can just go here and they can totally evaluate your whole entire system and we can get some more answers. So, you know, it’s for me, it’s going that extra mile. It’s figuring out that one piece that’s missing and so that we can put the picture together and help you heal well.

Betty Wang 00:46:11 Which is really nice, since in the I mean, in the medical community, they don’t have the time to do that, but that extra care and.

Christy Sanger 00:46:18 Yeah, they don’t.

Betty Wang 00:46:19 And to know that somebody is going to bat for you or is really on your side is, I bet, really amazing for your clients.

Christy Sanger 00:46:26 Yeah. I mean, I don’t have all the answers. You know, I’m not going to claim to be perfect or know everything, but I can try. Like, maybe it just, you know, takes 10s to maybe look at something and think about something different. And that’s just my goal is to maybe find a different path for you so you can just heal and live the life of your dreams because, you know, this world is kind of challenging.

Christy Sanger 00:46:46 And if you feel bad all the time, I couldn’t even imagine, you know, every morning getting out of bed and being like, oh man, I got the worst day ahead. Because I feel terrible knowing that there might be some other answers for people is what really keeps me going. Yeah, hope and strategy and.

Betty Wang 00:47:02 Right main hope. Yeah. For some people that they need it and.

Christy Sanger 00:47:08 Action steps and just being empowered like oh it’s okay I can only walk ten steps. Good. Walk ten steps. Right. That’s not bad. It’s not like, you know, it’s always like, okay, well I’m not good at something. Well you know, are you comparing yourself to a high level professional athlete or an Olympian, are you comparing yourself to somebody who’s bedridden? You can take ten steps and the person who’s laying in bed can’t. So let’s take ten steps and tomorrow you’ll be able to do 12, and then it’s 14. And then before you know you’re going to be walking a mile.

Christy Sanger 00:47:40 So hope absolutely. But strategy and action steps two so that, you know, you can really become empowered and be like, okay, well things aren’t great, but I’m going to work hard and I’m going to make it better.

Betty Wang 00:47:52 So that’s awesome. And what do you do outside of work, outside of your practice? I work a lot with people who are about to go into retirement or are going through some sort of transition, and in their lives, I mean, studies show that people are happier, especially in retirement, if they have something they like to do other than their work.

Christy Sanger 00:48:14 Yeah. So I spend a lot of time outside, you know, in the mornings I walk or run and usually in the afternoons I walk or run again. I spend a lot of time with my grown children and my dog and dogs and my husband. And, you know, recently my new thing is this new form of Bible study. And, you know, I’m always learning and studying and doing new things.

Christy Sanger 00:48:35 You know, to your point about retirement. I don’t think I’ll ever retire, but who knows what you’re going to stumble on, where you might want to do something different, or just connect with people in a different way. For example, we spend a lot of time on Kauai, and we have a good friend who’s in her 90s, and the last time we were there in July, we noticed that our memory was going a bit, and she noticed that too. And long story short, she actually she moved to Colorado, moved in with her sister because she just didn’t feel safe anymore, living on her own on the island. And I was like, her condo was so beautiful and the views and the breeze, and it was just so sad. She did the right thing and she made the right choice for herself. But I was like, gosh, I wish there was a way we could have safely kept her there. So that’s, you know, thinking just along those lines of how can we make this world a better place for other people is really kind of what I like to do in my spare time, thinking about different ideas and different strategies to, you know, could we have done something besides just like a standard service, like a real personal connection? Not that those organizations are bad or anything like that, but having just that, like caring, personal connection is important.

Christy Sanger 00:49:48 Like, I’ve already been to see my friend and her new retirement community and have lunch with her and her sister and just talk. And it’s so important just to, you know, not only be with our family and our upfront community, but to reach out to people like that who are probably terrified because they’re losing their memory, they’re aging, that they can’t do the things they enjoy anymore. But just going and spending time with people like that in a real heartfelt way, to me, is a valuable way to spend time when I’m not working.

Betty Wang 00:50:18 Yeah. I mean, it sounds like you’re such a giver of your time and your energy and your your skills and. Yeah, that’s so nice and generous and super generous.

Christy Sanger 00:50:30 But it’s so good. It’s so rewarding.

Christy Sanger 00:50:33 It’s so rewarding. You know, you just want everything that you give. You get back. You just see the smiles on this, this woman’s face and her sister. And, you know, it’s just it’s very rewarding to step outside your own little microcosm and do something like that.

Betty Wang 00:50:49 Well, this has been so enlightening. Thank you so much for spending some time with me today, Kristie.

Christy Sanger 00:50:55 Absolutely. This has been fantastic. Thank you so much.

Betty Wang 00:50:59 I feel like people have learned a lot. I’ve learned a lot. So I really appreciate your time with us. And we’ll be sure to put your information in the show notes. And if there’s if you want to reach out to Christy, we’ll put her phone number in her website and in the link. And if you want to reach out for me, to me, if you have financial questions. My information will be in the show notes as well. So thanks. Thank you Christy.

Christy Sanger 00:51:22 Thank you.

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